Taxation: Perpetual Indentured Servitude

The Right Wing Reverend first considers the teaching of Romans 13:1-7 on the civil magistrate and taxes.

He then considers the following questions: “Is the current taxing scheme in America biblical and just?

Or does the current taxing scheme amount to perpetual indentured servitude?

Are changes to the taxing system needed?”

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52 comments on “Taxation: Perpetual Indentured Servitude
  1. Raymond says:

    What has America become?

    Has America become the land of special interest and home of the
    double standard? Let's see: If we lie to the Congress, it's a felony
    and if Congress lies to us it's just politics. If we dislike a black person,
    we're a racist and if a black dislikes whites, it's their 1st Amendment
    right. The government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and
    they do almost nothing for the victims. In public schools you can teach
    that homosexuality and lesbianism is ok, but you better not use the
    word God in the process. You can murder a child in the mothers womb,
    but it's wrong to execute a mass murderer. We don't burn books in
    America, we now rewrite them. We got rid of the communist & socialist
    threat by renaming them progressives. If you protest against Obama's
    policies you're a terrorist, but if you burn an American flag or George
    Bush in effigy, it's your 1st Amendment right.

    You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not
    put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas. In America,
    criminals are now called sick people. The government takes money
    from those who work hard & gives it to those who are lazy. Parenting
    has been replaced with Ritalin & video games. The land of opportunity
    is now the land of hand outs.

    And how do we handle a major crisis today? The Government
    appoints a committee to determine who's at fault, then threatens
    them, passes a law, raises our taxes, then tells us the problem is
    solved so they can get back to their reelection campaign.

  2. Raymond says:

    CALIFORNIA judge rules that Muslims harassing and assaulting Jewish students are merely engaging in “protected speech”

    Posted: January 5, 2012 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: Islam and the Jews |70 Comments »

    The Islamic terrorist-sympathizing leftie judge stated that Muslim students who allegedly harassed Jewish students and even assaulted a woman with a cart were engaging in protected political speech. Shockingly, he blamed the Jewish victim for her counter-protest against ‘Israel Apartheid Week’ that was staged by Muslims.

  3. Raymond says:

    Horrified parents see Muslim man cannibalize their little girl.

    Posted: January 4, 2012 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed

    A muslim man kidnapped a three-year-old girl, murdered her, wrested her heart out of her chest and cut the body into pieces before he started cooking the parts. Her parents who entered the killer’s house stood in horror watching him preparing their own daughter as his meal.

    • all4HIM says:

      If they continue this behavior why not hose their mosques down with pigs blood and parts,they deserve it !!!

      • Raymond says:

        Please remember that Obama the homosexual would not allow this to
        happen to his fellow muslims.

      • wildmann says:

        Pigs Blood is not Easily gotten!! USE BACON FAT [Grease]. EVERYONE [almost] has this stuff in the kitchen for frying potatoes, fish etc. Easily carried, Perfect! As Emeril Says, "Hog Fat RULES!!"

    • I read the article and didn't find anything to make me believe that his Muslim faith had anything to do with this barbarous act. In fact, being in Morrocco, I have to assume that the little girl herself was Muslim. The article did not say.

      Now Raymond, if you were to ever cite, from multiple sources throughout history, cults of Jews doing the same to Christian children, you would be accused of BLOOD LIBEL and your life would be utterly destroyed.

  4. Mari says:

    Well Said and true. I heard about a guy named Jesus, who was outraged at the people in the synagogue. That was the place of worship and respect. HE got mad and wrecked it. As a Christian I belive that Jesus was born of GOD and human, lived as human, and experienced all human feelings….that includes injustice. He made His point. Stand up for what is right, believe in it. So will I. I will not support Obama. My ancestors gave up a lot to get here. I have worked because I believe, as they did, that this is the best country on earth. They left servitude. I serve only one GOD first, my country second. Obama is DONE!

  5. SEAN MURRY says:

    The muslims eat thier own childern.

    • Robert says:

      That would be a good thing but not likely .
      They need all of the children they have to have what they need for indoctrination and train in Hate , Stupidly , and how to kill as many people as they can by blowing themselves up .
      Rat-finkel would fit nicely

  6. orples says:

    A Government big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take everything you own away from you (to give to someone else, it appears). The begins of this video had me thinking it was a guilt trip courtesy of the IRS to appease to those that might think "God said pay your taxes". Actually, it was quite the opposite, so I'll say if you watch it, watch to the end for the true message. Either way, I think we should audit, then phase out the Federal Reserve and give the IRS the boot while we're at it. We pay too many taxes now.

    • Hear hear! Too many and too much. The Mission of Gov has changed from protecting our God Given Rights to Collecting Taxes and coming with new reasons to collect.

  7. Diane says:

    Yet they will nOT eat PORK or EVEN look at a PIG . Maybe its time to put ABUNCH OF HOGS on the white house lawn to KEEP the muslims away . OR where ever we do NOT want the Muslims to be. In Colleges/ street protests / ect ect ect .

  8. samtman says:

    Keep the government out of the Bible and the Bible out of the Government, thats what the constitution says.

    • dingbat36 says:

      The Constitution says no such thing. You need to read the document…………oh wait you, being rather illiterate, would not be able to understand it anyway………………..never mind, just go away.

      • Looking4Sanity says:

        They think that if they keep telling this lie, it will one day magically become true. I, too, wish they would just go away.

        The only ignorance samtman suffers from is "willful ignorance". He knows full well he's lying. He has his Satanic marching orders and he's being a good little foot-soldier.

    • Raymond says:

      Wrong again Sam.

  9. Mixing Gov and God is a bad idea. You will find that Gov quickly replaces God.

    I've got a slightly different explanation on how US Citizens are Slaves to the Feds.

    Give us a Tax System that follows Article 1 Section 2.

    • dingbat36 says:

      How about one that treats all people EQUALLY, under the law?

      • Article 1 Section 2.

        "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

        Slavery is no more so all States's Representatives and Taxes would be apportioned among the states by Capitation. Can't get any more Equal than that and we already have it written into the Constitution. The 16th Amendment in practice supersedes Art 1 Sec 2, however the 16th did not repeal it in Law.

        Art 1 Sec 9 Clause 4 reiterates Sec 2 by saying "No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken."

        The Founders gave us a logical and fair tax system, sadly we spend so much time and money electing others to run our lives for us that many have forgotten or never learned to think and do for themselves.

        • I agree with your anti-16th stance, but in regards to the topic of this post, I can't help but notice that Article 1, Section 2 is a tax on "free Persons" only. Well then, who really is the slave :-)

    • Looking4Sanity says:

      Your entire premise is flawed at its core! It is NEVER a "bad idea" to have God involved in ANYTHING! No right-thinking Christian would even consider uttering such stupidity.

      • Whose God or chosen form of worship do you get when you mix Gov and God? Yours? You've proven to be little more than a hate filled naive that spews insults in lieu of wisdom. I prefer to have my relationship with God unmolested by the likes of others. Especially when I know there are little spoiled rotten little cowards such as yourself, who vote their favorites into power. You cast aspersions safely from the WWW, but anyone with any sense or experience knows that you'd not dare make a peep to someone's face. The fact that you do cast insults without the danger of being reprimanded shows the coward and child you are.

        The idea is not have have God missing from Gov (through Man), it is most certainly to have Gov missing from God. When the Gov controls the word of God, people are not free to us the FREE WILL, that God gave to Men and not Angels, to make personal relationships with our Lord. When that relationship is COERCED by Gov, it is not Free Will. Government is Force and you cannot force one into God's Graces.

        While it served some purpose to exchange with such a small minded fool early on to show just how inept and craven many Paul detractors are, arguing with a fool is foolish.

        • Looking4Sanity says:

          “You cast aspersions safely from the WWW, but anyone with any sense or experience knows that you'd not dare make a peep to someone's face.”That sounds like a challenge to me. Are you telling me you'd like to meet me someplace to discuss this personally? I'd be more than happy to oblige!Now…your babbling crap is getting tiresome. You obviously lack any understanding of the Founders or their process and intent in the founding of this country. You also lack any understanding of God, the Holy Bible, or Christianity, or you couldn't spout the inane pap that you do so regularly.I remain totally unimpressed by you. I guess it's true what they say…”Familiarity breeds contempt”. Now that I'm familiar with your beliefs, I find my contempt for you as natural as breathing.You let me know what you decide about that meeting you suggested.

        • I live in Atlanta GA, you?

        • Looking4Sanity says:

          Fredericksburg, VA.

        • Hmmm, seems we are forced to an impasse with regard to resolving this in person. Now I suppose you will return to your ad hominem and making claims without anything to back them up. How honorable is it to name call from the safety of anonymity? It is not, it is craven because you know that you can libel and ad hominem as much as you please without any form a real retribution. How would Christ handle this situation? Name-call and berate without offering any wisdom? The Christian who behaves unlike Christ ought to spend more time begging His forgiveness than putting more effort into disregarding His Teachiings.

          Are Christ's Teachings irrelevant if you are Saved? Was Christ wasting His breath when He advise to turn the cheek? Would Christ shout insults from the safety of a hilltop without ever offering some Wisdom?

          Now do you care to give an example of my lack of understanding of the Founders or Christ's Teachings, or will you continue to behave as some spoiled child taunting from the safety anonymity and distance?

          How about addressing my comments of mixing Gov and God? Care to explain how injecting Gov into God works? It works both ways you know and that is why part of the 1st Amendment states that the Feds shall not make any law with respect to religion. Tyrants have often twisted Scripture to their, not God's, own end.

          What are your thoughts on Art1 Sec 2 & 9? Do you have any? Have you ever had any?

      • If we did not extend the 1st Amendment down to the States by stupidly invoking the 14th Amendment, and if we repealed the 17th Amendment so that religious-dominated States could appoint their representative to the U.S. Senate again, thus becoming a State-ran Senate who would greedly repeal the 16th Amendment which bypasses their State authority, then all would be well with the world again. And a State-ran Senate would NEVER confirm a federal judge who would rule that the 14th Amendment or the commerce clause could be so openly expanded way past its intended target.

        So yes, our right-thinking Christian Founding Fathers set everything up exactly like this. Get your State to run their own Senatorial candidate in the general election against the ANTI-STATE NATIONAL PARTY of the Democrats and Republicans and see what God can do.

        • Looking4Sanity says:

          Oh, poor Finalsolution! You STILL don't get it, do you? The Unalienable Rights do not originate from government, so it is impossible for them to be “extended”…downwards OR upwards. Those Rights come from God. The Constitution only acknowledges that FACT!And…I'd like to know which of our States you consider to be “dominated by religion”, as you so ignorantly stated. It's obvious to me that you STILL haven't worked out the difference between “Freedom OF Religion” and “freedom FROM religion”. The former is an Unalienable Right while the latter is a figment of your imagination.All your incoherent babbling about the Senate has not convinced me that you have ANY answers…let alone ALL the answers.Try harder.

  10. OLD DAD says:

    That would mean the politicians would have to pay their fair share and never engage on insider trading to make fortunes that no one else has access to.
    NEVER WORK says washington.

  11. TedRWeiland says:

    "Some people believe the Constitution’s authority to tax is implied in Romans 13…. Many ministers have turned this passage into 'a sword of oppression rather than a shield from tyranny.' If one ignores the context, it does appear that all governments have the right to tax their citizens and that Christians are obligated to pay any and all taxes. But this interpretation can only be defended if verses 3 and 4 are ignored. In verse 6, we are told, 'for this cause pay ye tribute.' In other words, for the specific cause mentioned in the previous verses:

    'For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.' (Romans 13:3-4)

    "The Apostle Paul was explicit about the type of rulers to whom he was referring. Three times in five verses he identified them as ministers or servants of Yahweh who do good to the righteous and strike fear into the hearts of the wicked. Does this description apply to everyone working in government today? Does this description apply to anyone in government today? Just as respect and honor are not due to everyone, neither are taxes due to someone just because he claims them. Are taxes due to those who legislate and finance pornography, homosexuality, and infanticide? Are taxes due to those who conspire to disarm law-abiding citizens and who promote an antichrist New World Order?"

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  12. Cliffystones says:

    I find the most oppressive tax to be property tax. The government basically charges "protection money" of thousands of dollars a year, or they will kick you out of your own home!

    • I meant to agree with you Cliffy,

      Agreed! And 90% of property taxes goes to indoctrinate your kids in government schools that you cannot opt out of. You are FORCED to pay school taxes on property whether your kid attends one of their indoctrination camps or not. – Whether I have kids in school or not. And if I do have kids, I am indirectly FORCING my neighbors to help indoctrinate my kids.

  13. Here is how the collonies were demoninated:
    1607 Virginia Anglican
    1626 New York Dutch Reformed
    1630 Massachusetts Puritan
    1633 Maryland Catholic
    1636 Rhode Island Baptist
    1636 Connecticut Congregational
    1638 New Hampshire Congregational
    1638 Delaware Lutheran and Dutch Reformed
    1653 North Carolinia Anglican
    1663 South Carolina Anglican
    1664 New Jersey Dutch Reform
    1682 Pennsylvania Quaker
    1732 Georgia Anglican

  14. John says:

    The current federal tax code is an abomination. It is 71,684 pages long, chocked full of pork, political favors, special interest tax breaks,and corruption. We absouutley must reform the tax code if we wish to preserve and protect our freedoms.

  15. The States did not want the federal government involved in religion because THEY wanted to be involved in religion. The three Anglican states did not want Catholics from Maryland to dominate the Federal government's decisions on religion and vice-verse. Same with the Quackers, Lutherans, Dutch and Puritans for sure. So they all agreed to practice their own religion in their own States as they saw fit and STRICTLY FORBID the federal government from having any say whatsoever in religion.