Detroit to Obama: We Voted for You, Now Bail Us Out

The city of Detroit faces a major financial crisis and one member of city council thinks President Barack Obama should step in and help.

City Council member JoAnn Watson said Tuesday the citizen’s support of Obama in last month’s election was enough reason for the president to bailout the struggling the city.

“Our people in an overwhelming way supported the re-election of this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership on that,” said Watson. “Of course, not just that, but why not?”

Nearly 75 percent of Wayne County voters pulled the lever for Obama in November.

The White House has expressed no plans to bailout the cash-crunched city that some experts say could run out of money by the end of the year.

The federal government has bailed out cities in the past, however. In 1975, President Gerald Ford extended more than $2 billion in credit to New York City to help it avoid a financial collapse.

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287 comments on “Detroit to Obama: We Voted for You, Now Bail Us Out
  1. disgusted democrat says:

    You corupt fools have dug your own hole and now it’s sink or swim. THE REST OF THE COUNTRY OWES YOU FOOLS NOTHING. A well oiled black run city!!

    • dontjst says:

      Would that there were more democrats like you – I remember the democrats of the Truman years. Whether you agreed with them or not, they were a party of integrity and honesty and the opposite sides could have honest, sincere debates about what is best for the country. Great years – too bad greed and corruption has moved in.

      • hookemowls says:

        Yep, today’s Dimocrat is not your mothers democrat, today’s democrat are Communists/Marxists and they are the USEFUL IDIOTS who bought into the class warfare BS! Corruption run amok! JFK would have been considered a conservative today!

        And the morons that don’t think that the POS isn’t ruining America on purpose put the S the word stupid!

        Resist the tyranny, people!

        • dontjst says:

          UT & Rice?

        • DrewbeScrewed says:

          That’s because they follow the basic law of human stupidity, in that they are unashamedly stupid. These idiots are the output of a perfectly engineered mass production machine created by the social, political and institutional power known as liberalism.

        • mallen11 says:

          If one is grounded in the home and church with establishment principles from Bible Doctrine one will not be reprogrammed by the liberal elite in our halls of higher learning or the media. I have two brothes who went to the UT and came out still conservative. I went to the UH and came out still conservative.

          If there is no restraint in the home, neither is it in society.

        • Washington22 says:

          Well stated, Mallen. One must be grounded in their upbringing, first, with God and in the home with their parents teaching them. Blessings to you and yours.

        • taliesin319 says:

          As a seventh generation American, I mourn the death of a once great Republic. It became seriously ill in 1968 with the advent of the whining, moaning, spoiled brat hippies, whose parents told them the sun shone out of their backsides. They, in turn neglected their children and those same children did exactly the same as the parents of the hippies.
          They told their little darlings that they were immensely talented, bright and altogether exceptional in every way. They were not. In fact they were so woefully educated that they morphed into a generation almost devoid of any sort of critical thinking skills. Religion for the most part became more like a meeting of the Nice Society and God forbid anyone should speak to this crew of personal accountability or actual transgressions against the 10 Commandments. They are a group ill prepared for a catastrophe brought on by fiscal failure or those precipitated by weather. Look to your families and continue to train them in the acquisition of coping mechanisms. If you cannot find or afford a good Christian school, home school or bind together with other like minded families and form a charter school. There are good teachers who are as tired of the party line as others are and would be glad to teach a good basic curriculum. Look to God and remember that he still holds the deed to this piece of real estate called Earth and will deal with it as he sees fit to do so. Every member of your family above the age of consent should be legal owners of the weapon of their choice, and train on the firing range at least once monthly.

        • mallen11 says:

          Well written comment and I certainly agree.

        • fredh says:

          The Communist takeover of America 1963 to 1975
          And how they accomplished there goals

          President Ronald Reagan in 1984 brought a panel of people together to study Pres. Johnson’s Great Society 1964, after 4 months they came back to Mr. Reagan and told him it was a total failure. This essay deals with that Failure.
          In this essay that I am writing, I am trying to connect the dots. There were many things that happened to change this country, between 1963 to 1975.

          “The Communist Blueprint “ Book explaining the new communist party , 1919 up date of the communist manifesto.
          The aim of the party of the proletariat consist in … explaining that deprivation of political rights and any kind of limitation of freedom are necessary as temporary measures in order to defeat the attempts of the exploiters to retain or reestablish their privileges. With the disappearance of the possibility of exploitation of one human being by another, the necessity for these measures will also gradually disappear, and the party will aim to reduce and completely abolish them.
          Said one of the program’s platforms for women: The party aim is not to limit itself to the formal proclamation of women equality, but to liberate women from all burdens of antiquated methods of housekeeping, by replacing them by house -communes, public kitchens, central laundries, nurseries, etc. Now since no body was home rearing children, government became the new parent

          Antonio Gramsci was an Italian Communist Philosopher who wrote articles on how to destroy the United States. One of the articles he wrote in 1921 was called the “Attack on the Family”. In this article he outlines all the methods of how to destroy the American Family, and this country has adopted every part of his writings. Take over the courts and remove the man from the home. Starting in 1963, prayer was taking out of public schools, birth control pills were introduced to girls, now a girl or women could have sex without the worry of getting pregnant. Government employees were allow to unionize, and the Viet Nam war started and it lasted 10 years. Americans were turning to drugs and getting high, in order to cope with the changes being push on society.
          Phase One-1971 until now; The Environmentalist take over the Government.
          Maurice Strong and one of the Rothschild went before the United Nations and they launch the environmental movement, this was in 1971.
          Also in 1971, President Nixon announced over television that he was changing the economy of the United States from an industrial to a service economy. President Nixon also open the trade door with China. In the same year Mr. Nixon had Congress passed the Environmental Protection Act.
          In 1933 President Roosevelt with a Executive Order make it illegal for Americans citizens to own gold, they were force to turn in all their gold or pay a 10,000 dollars fine. This law stayed on the books till 1971. That year Mr. Nixon took this dollar off the Gold Standard but he also allow Americans citizens to how own gold. Now the government and the Federal Reserve could print all the dollars they wanted ( can you say the word DEFICIT), scroll down to the graph below. When we were on the gold standard our dollars were tied to the amount of gold, and their was very little inflation. The rest of the industrial world complained about the removal of gold from our dollar , so Mr. Nixon promise them we would start to buy their products. Remember before 1971 this country imported very little products from other countries, almost every thing we built stay here. Because of Mr. Nixon changing our economy from an industrial to a service economy , the EPA and the removal of the gold from our dollar. Any factory that produced pollution the EPA started to shut them down, like our factories, steel mills, and mining. Later, in the 1980s and 1990s, farming and logging also went into a decline. These industries provided jobs to men and fathers to support their families.

          Mr. Nixon also wrote Executive Order 11647 which created “Federal Regionalism” , Our country was divided into ten regional subdivisions. This order was another way of eliminating states rights.

          Also in 1971, the 26 amendment was ratified, this amendment allowed the legal age to vote at 18, this made children into adults. Before 1971 teenagers were under their parents until they were 21 years old and we had no legal rights. Mothers were staying in the workforce and this Amendment allow parents to be responsible only till their children reach 18 years old

          Who are the environmentalist (communist) , now they have totally taken over this country , without firing one shot. This country has adopted all ten planks of the communist manifesto. Most American men have been brain wash and have bought into the communist lies.

          Phase Two- Destroy the family by empowering women, and eliminated men from the home and family.
          The Civil Rights Bill of 1964 was passed and this bill destroyed the family. This bill attempted to make the sexes and all people’s totally equal, (Unisex). This bill gave all white women minority status, and Congress has passed over 400 laws to empower women, 0 laws for men.

          Before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the family was one unit. The man one half , the woman the other half of that marriage. The Bible says when a man and woman get married, they become one flesh. A young man looking for a wife, was really looking for his other half. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 made men and women whole persons. Question, can a ship have two captains, Answer; “NO, the ship can only go in one direction at a time.”
          Say for instance before 1964 there were 40 million families, the family was one economic unit. The Civil Rights Bill of 1964 made every person an economic unit. Now instead of 40 million families , you now have 200 million people or economic units and they became the responsibility of the state. The family unit had one house, one vehicle, one set of dishes and silverware, everything to run a home.

          The new economic units ( persons) because of divorce, each had to have his/her own house , his/her own car, their own set of dishes and silverware, and their set of snow tires for their car. The economic unit had to have his/her own job. Before 1965 most young men and women stayed at home with their parents, until they got married, in the last 35 years ,most teens leave their parents home and go into debt to so they can be free.(DEBT= BONDAGE). Marriage went to hell. Last year 2005 the number unwed mothers reach an all time high of thirty-four percent, there were 1.5 million babies born without a father that year.

          During the 1960′s Earl Warren and the Supreme Court gave criminals the more rights then the victim. This tied the hands of law enforcement.

          . After the end of the Second World War, under the Marshall Plan, (1946 to 1970) this country took on the job of rebuilding the 110 major cities in Europe and Asia that were destroyed during the Second World War. American men, and some American women, worked 12 hours a day, six to seven days a week, supplying the world with goods and materials, i.e., “The Berlin Airlift.”

          The workforce in the United States between 1900 to 1970 was 80 per cent male or 56 million men, 20 per cent female or 14 million women. When a woman got married became pregnant she would quit her job and she went home to raise her baby. Starting in 1972 mothers were told to stay in the workforce, because it was to expensive to train another young women. Congress push a bill to give new mothers six week leave of absence, after six weeks she could go back to her job and put her child into daycare, a brand- new industry

          Starting in 1970, the Federal Government began to regulate the private sector, FASCISM– No capital owned, but all capital controlled by the state. Affirmative action –companies were forced to hire non-productive people creating a huge bureaucracy. Women were given minority status, How can a woman be a minority, when women are the majority. A woman was no longer tied to her husband; in reality she could do as she pleased. Government became her new daddy.

          Before 1970, the average family owned one house and one car. The husband drove that car to work, and it parked eight, 10, 12 hours a day so he could feed and support his family. The wife on the other hand stayed at home and took care of their home and children. These women were called mothers and homemakers.
          Starting 1957, government public schools, and the auto manufacturers began to teach young girls in high school how to drive cars, donated by General Motors. Women driving cars did not catch on big until 1972. More and more women were becoming hooked on driving. This created a problem, as cars were not cheap. The average father and husband could not afford two cars and a home.
          So guess what happened; government created paper-pushing jobs to carry out their regulations created by the growing bureaucracies. And since women were taught typing and shorthand in the public schools, they got these paper-pushing jobs..

          Before 1970 we were the greatest nation on the face of the earth, no longer, how we are depended on China, Japan , India and the Muslim countries for all goods , we need to keep our life style.

          Laws passed by congress take about 10 years to filter down to the general public.

          I keep on hearing on talk radio ( 2009) the food we eat is not good for our families, we should not eat process foods. These foods have MSG and are genetically modified. Diabetes and being over weight is running ramped. Question; Where did these foods comes from? During the 60′s government wanted mothers out of the home, so the corporations created process foods. These foods made the working mothers job at home a lot easier when she got home. One of the first fast foods was the TV dinner .

          From 1972 to 1985 America’s workforce doubled from 70 million people to 135 million people. This rise in the workforce was predominately women, mothers, and housewives. During that same period productivity dropped from 100 per cent to 50 per cent..Inflation rose sharply , because of the rise in money supply to pay these new salaries.

          Question; How could the workforce double from 1972 to1983 and at the same time this country was changing the economy from and industrial to a service ? A lot of factories were shut down. What I am talking about are the steel mills , electronics, shoe manufacturing, tool and die shops , the EPA had a lot to do with these closing, IE. air pollution. The last fuel refinery was built in 1976 and yet the amount of car have double . In 2004 the chief CEO of General Motors said on 60 minutes , that women bought and paid for 80 percent of all brand new cars .

          Imagine you own a company, 10 men and 10 women. You pay all of your employees 10 dollars per hour. The job of your employees was to carry rocks in a backpack from point A to point B. The men can easily carry 60 pounds of rocks and work an 8 hour day, the women on the hand can only carry 30 pounds of rocks and work an 8 hour day. Since they are all paid 10 dollars per hour, how long will the men continue 60 lbs. When the women are only carrying 30 lbs. The men will go down to the level of the women, and I as the employer can do nothing about it. DISCRIMINATION; This is what happen to the military and Americas workforce.

          Since a lot of mothers were leaving the home, no one was home rearing children. Government assumed that roll of caretaker. Government became the provider and pappa to a big majority of women. Gramsci – Take over the courts and remove the man from the home
          Now that women were in the workforce, they could afford to buy their own cars and support themselves. Divorce rates started to rise, and the women who fell through the cracks, government picked up (the welfare state). Divorce became common place. A woman did not need a man anymore except for building her a house, maintaining her car, and being a companion. The family started to die. . Now a woman could have sex whenever she pleased, and if she got pregnant and did not want that baby, she could get an abortion, legalized in 1974 by Roe vs. Wade. Abortion and gay marriages are the direct result of taking men and fathers out of the home. Now because a women could buy and own her car , the price of a car started to go up and up and up . The same thing with gasoline, In 1973 gas was 33 cents per gallon by the end of 1974 it went to 68 cents per gallon ,and it went higher and higher. This is the cause of INFLATION.

          How does Congress figure the inflation rate?
          They use four things to figure inflation #1 cost of homes, #2 transportation ( cars), #3 energy, #4 food.

          In 1972 I said , for every woman who enters the workforce , another woman would have to follow, because of the INFLATION created by the first women. At that time I did not understand economics. Let’s say 10 families live on a city block , all their homes are all alike. The women all stay at home rearing their children. The men all work at the same plant, doing the same job. All the men get paid the same salary. One day one of the women says, I need a new sofa, I think I will get a job. Now that family can buy two cars, they have more money to expand their home or go out to dinner. Question; How can the rest of the families compete?
          Congress also pushed another nail in the coffin with Affirmative Action. Under the 1964 Civil Rights Bill women were considered a minority, and as a minority had preference on all jobs. Now, white men and black men were forced to compete with their wives or some other man’s wives for jobs. All the laws were on her side, and the man was still legally responsible for his family. How can a woman be a minority when women are the majority with 55 per cent of the population in this country? .
          According to the EEOC , 1964 to 1990 Congress has passed 160 laws to empower women, 0 laws for men. Between 1990 to 2009 Congress has probably passed another 160 laws.
          Since 1974 women have killed 50 million babies ( Roe vs Wade ). What is the main reason for these abortions? DEBT, almost all women starting at age 16 , must go into DEBT in order to buy a good running vehicle. All of this must stop, the family must be restored back to how it was before 1964. God intended men (fathers) to support their families. Men have been systemically removed from the family and home by divorce and the courts. God never intended men and women to compete with each other for a job. But that was the result of the 1964 Act. Since 1964 the family has been torn apart; divorce has skyrocketed. Mothers no longer stay at home and take care of children.

          The Reasons for the Housing Crisis

          In 1974, Congress also pushed a bill called the, “1974 Housing and Urban Affairs Sex Discrimination Ban.” Like the Senate bill, House Bill 15361 would outlaw sex discrimination by lending institutions for almost all mortgages transactions. Banks would have to consider “without prejudice” the combined income of the husband and wife seeking a mortgage loan”. Before 1974, banks normally only took the salary of the head of household to figure how much money that family could afford. Because of that law, the price of housing quadrupled between 1974 and 1980. There was another problem because of that law – divorce. Previous to this, most women found jobs after high school in banks, lawyers’ offices, etc. Girls were taught typing and shorthand. They worked till they got married and pregnant. Women had the right to quit their jobs to stay home to rear their children. The husband assumed all responsibilities of that family.

          After this 1974 bad law, the price of housing was based on two salaries. The problem was, the wife could quit her job if she felt like it. This led the husband to the reality of how to pay a mortgage based on two incomes with only one income. Some men were paid enough money; most men were not. Salaries in the private sector were low. This led to another problem. The husband was force to work two jobs, i.e., the word “workaholic.” Since the husband was never home; his wife was bored and lonely and she, in some cases, applied for divorce. In most cases, in the courts, the wife got the gold mine and husband got the shaft.
          Safety net; When the wife stayed home and took care of the home and raise her children, just say her husband has a heart attack and can no longer work . His wife can enter the workforce , in order to pay the mortgage and pay the bills.

          Starting 1972 mothers began to stay in the workforce, that was the year they burnt their bras. The workforce in 1970 was 70 million people, 80% men and 20% women..Government in 1972, started adjusted unemployment records to reflect the new employment figures . If a women was laid off , she was eligible for unemployment and since being out of work, government reflected her in employment records. Americas workforce was sky rocking, but government kept on showing high unemployment. The Labor department was lying about their records.

          Before 1970, women almost never went into debt, 90 percent of all debt was held by men. When a man married a woman, the man’s responsibility was to supply his wife with a home and all the things needed to run that home. In 1972, women bought in to the feminist lesbian idea that women should not trust men. Women should have their own money, their own jobs and their own cars. Once a women got used to driving her own car, she could no longer walk. She was no longer depended on her husband. This is the first time in the history of the world, women went into debt. Question; how can society stop abortions and make sure mothers stay at home to raise there children, when all women are in debt? What is the purpose of Debt? Answer CONTROL. Once a person is in debt , he or she is a slave to the bankers and government, and can be controlled. Now since there is no one home raising children the government assumed that ROLE.
          Supply and Demand; On gasoline, when demand goes up, supply stays the same, the price must go up. The last refinery built in this country was in 1976, women started driving in1972. Gasoline in1970 was .32 cents a gallon, by 1974 gas was 68 cents a gallon, 2005 gas is $2.25 per gallon

          In 1972, some thirty states had a Con Con when they rewrote their State Constitutions. In most cases these constitutions were for the worse, and we lost a lot of our rights.
          Young girls of driving age are encouraged to buy a car and go into debt. Question; How can this young girl ever get married and stay home to rear her children when she is in debt because of buying that car. Her roll models are the older women produce own cars and are in debt. Fathers have been eliminated from most families. In the United States, 85 per cent of all gay men were raised in fatherless homes. Divorce, women in debt and abortion are symptoms of laws created by the Congress of the United States in their efforts to make everyone equal (unisex).

          The women’s movement of the 1960′s made the life of men much easier, a man no longer has to kill himself working to support a family. The women’s movement free up men from dying at and early age. Men were allow to become lazy and melancholy. Men are much better off thanks to affirmative action .Men use to fight for our God given rights in American wars, they fought for God, Country, and Family, now they fight for money. This country no longer produces wealth and now we import most of our needs. Can the genie ever be put back in the box? Thank God for the Welfare state and government thanks for their protection. We no longer must take responsibility for our lives and our failures.

          Other related subjects and problems created by the Federal Government ,and the Civil Rights Bill of 1964. Title nine and ten. . In the university system under title 9, for every dollars spent on male sports, they had to spend the same on female sports. The reason for this was males athlete’s did better in business.
          In the early 70s government started pushing organize sports, i.e. little league baseball, football, there was a male adult coaching the team and if the boys wanted to join they had to be winners. Then they push girls to play with the boys, if the parents did not like there sons playing with girls the answer was don’t play. No more sandlot sports.
          As women became independent and divorce took off, women started to demand more government to take care of them.
          We now have more government employees (Fed., State, local, and school districts) consuming wealth than we have in the private sector producing wealth. The worst part of this is, the fact the private sector is no longer allow to produce wealth. No more mining, logging, farm subsidies and corporate farms have destroyed the small farmer.

          Conclusion ; Unisex does not work
          All most every man and women have bought into this socialist government and the New World order . The schools have indoctrinated our children into socialist ideas. Men have been brainwash , that it is better to have his wife out working and his children in daycare. This way he can have all the toys he wants, he does not have to chauffeur his wife to the stores, because she has her own vehicle. The reality of all this wealth is divorce is at 65 percent, there are how more women in the workforce, and more women are graduating from college. But what happens when a war like the Second World war breaks out , does any one think women will fight this war, no it will still be men. Men at one time fought for Family , God, and Country. Question ; What will men fight for how ? MONEY, that is a bad reason to fight and die for .

          Feminism; Young women are taught by some fathers and mostly mothers not to become mothers, go to college and get a career.
          Abortion; Opps I got pregnant, should I keep it , or abort it, because my career is more important.

          History teaches us what Nations go through
          About the author, it took me over 20 years to write this essay.
          People go from bondage to spiritual Faith
          From Spiritual Faith to Great Courage
          From courage to liberty
          From liberty to abundance
          From abundance to selfishness
          From selfishness to complacency
          From complacency to apathy
          From apathy to dependency
          From dependency back again to bondage

        • Victor Magilke says:

          The democratic party is controlled by the black caucus, gays, communists, AIPAC and atheists. The decent democrats fled the party in the sixties.

      • rchguns says:

        The Democratic Party ceased to exist quite some time ago. The Progressive Socialist took over the public school systems and have been indoctrinating our young people since the 60s. You look at our universities and colleges who are the instructors? They are the product of the chickens and cowards dodge the draft during Vietnam. To keep from being drafted if you had money you went to college. Not knowing what course of study and not wanting to work very hard most majored in liberal arts and then switched over to political science or even law. These are the people that now dominate the Democratic Party and he did it so slowly that most people never notice that the party was changing. Ask any Democrat that’s over 50 years old if he can really look at what the party has become and proudly say I am a Democrat. It’s not going to happen Democratic Party is dead Long live progressive socialists.

        • flash says:

          We can thank the former President Clinton, who gave amnesty to the Draft dodgers. Why did they not completely impeach him? He could’nt even salute and had to be taught. That is the old commander and cheif! I voted for Mitt Romney cause who else was left, but I am glade he lost. I do not belive that the Mormons wear the Uniform, so it is inconceivible how we could have a Commander in Cheif that would ask our soldiers to go to war, but refuse to send his Five Son’s. Mitt loosing was actually a blessing, we do not need another Mr. Rodgers type leader, who cannot get tough when needed. Even Adolf Hitler was a Corporal and served his Country! We can’t even get that much, just a bunch of Suites wanting to spend our money.

        • GrumpyGramps says:

          @flash..I served in the United States Air Force with one of the finest people I have ever met. He was Mormon and I would have jumped into
          a fox hole next to him way before I would some of the “solders” who are in the service today! You misconception of the Mormon’s probably not only cost us the election, but the lose of this nation as we once knew! Thanks! Enjoy what you get to keep!

        • hornman2 says:

          Too many people confuse the Mormons with Jehovah Witness; there is a very different view point when it comes to patriotism and military service. However, there is one similarity that is common to all non judeo-christion religions; they are classified as a cult or false religion. They do not believe that Jesus Christ is the ONLY begotten son of God, reigns with God the father, is the ONLY way to salvation, and is soon to be King of all the universe for all who believe in Him and have accepted Him as there personal Lord and Savior.

        • taliesin319 says:

          Mormons do indeed wear the uniform and make exemplery members of the service. Both officers and enlisted personnel take their jobs seriously and their work ethic is such that they are invariably promoted in advance of their peers and well in advance of their peers. There may of course be exceptions that prove the rule but those I served with were an ornament to my unit and would be such in any other unit that got them. As far as being proud Americans they pass with flying colors.

        • Magnum says:

          I can wholeheartedly agree with taliesin. I spent several years doing business in Salt Lake City, Utah, and Idaho. I was honored to make many lasting friendships with Mormon colleagues. I gained a high respect for their work ethics, personal integrity, self-sufficiency, independence, and their unshakable sense of loyalty to this nation. I especially came to respect and admire the way that they imbued these characteristics in their children. It’s not by accident that the Mormons have prospered when others haven’t!

        • dAN says:

          I would think that before you start putting labels on people, you might make sure of what you say about them: Mr Rogers isn’t here to defend himself. He may have had a great deal more integrity than you seem to give him credit for.

        • edodaniel says:

          @flash – Regarding your comment ” I do not belive that the Mormons wear the Uniform.” – that is an absolutely incorrect belief on your part. In these days of an all volunteer military, it is an individual decision to join for Mormons as well as for Catholics, Baptists, Protestants, Lutherans, or any other religion. Although not a practicing Mormon I spent over 22 years in the Army before retiring and during that time I served in Combat Arms with many, many Mormons.

          Although Mitt Romney had his own weaknesses they were NOTHING in comparison to those of Obama and without the willing support and connivance of the MSM the fictional stories about Mitt Romney planted by the MSM and Obama campaign would never have passed any test.

          Romney was correct about the 47% of Americans who are simply non-tax paying freeloaders but the MSM turned that into something dirty rather than admitting to the truth of the statement.

        • rchguns says:

          Yes Mormons do serve in the military and they serve with distinction. I personally would like to see it mandatory that any president must be a veteran but that’s only a pipe dream. I wholeheartedly believe that anyone who serves in Congress or anywhere in DC should be required to pass security clearance of secret or better. No clearance no job also he convicted of a felony you can’t serve. Now want to make a lot of people angry I believe there should be two levels of residence in America 1) people were born here or emigrate and go through naturalization can be residents but they cannot vote and they cannot get any of the free Benny’s( student loans welfare that type of thing) and then you have 2) people who went through basic training and have served either in the military or a paramilitary group like AmeriCorps, Peace Corps this type of thing where they have to live within a structured organization and meet certain standards. And for no less than four years. The old saying if you don’t have skin in the game zone played the game.
          Subject: [visiontoameica] Re: Detroit to Obama: We Voted for You, Now Bail Us Out

        • Victor Magilke says:

          LBJ caused the decent, honorable democrats to leave the party. The democrat party of the past is no more the party of the people, that party is dead..

        • Magnum says:

          When I was a youngster in the ’40s and ’50s, the mantra in our house was “The Democrats are the friend of the working man”, and “FDR saved the country from ruin”. Those family members of that generation still alive in the ’60s and ’70s had almost all switched to the GOP, having lost all faith in the Democratic Party’s growing socialist/liberal slant, and it’s overt pandering to the” less than productive” segments of society with their Great Society programs. The Democrats of that era are now probably spinning so fast in their graves that they’ve tunneled half way to China, while today’s democrats are simply defaulting the country to China!

        • Victor Magilke says:

          Excellent comment Magnum. My family have always supported the Republican party. They never liked or trusted FDR. But I agree about honorable democrats. My wifes family were democrats until the late sixties and after the LBJ fiasco they changed to the Republican party.

        • rfrichey says:

          How right you are about people changing. My father in law a WWII vet had always been a dyed in the wool dem. and served many years as dem. precinct chairman. He came to me once after hearing a Reagan campaign speech and told me that he liked what Reagan had to say. When I asked what that was he said that Reagan said that those who worked hardest should eat the most.

      • Victor Magilke says:

        You are spot on. The solid south were honorable hardworking patriots. LBJ’s Great Society ended that. These same people are now Republicans or Independents.

    • 13th Floor Looking Out says:

      You reap what you sow….the fools haven’t seen anything yet, and these are the good times compared to what obama has in store for them. Kind of like leading pigs to the slaughter. They, like the liberals in California and New York can go to hell and enjoy the misery they’ve created for themselves.

      • Guest says:

        Trouble is, they have also created it for us who are not to blame but have been hardworking and decent citizens!

        • 13th Floor Looking Out says:

          This is true, as I’ve always worked hard for a living, but I have no sympathy for those who hope to profit by ill-gotten gains.

        • oldcoyote says:

          Right On and these stupid idiots are too ignorant to see that.

        • Victor Magilke says:

          I second that. They are too stupid. They can’t see the forest for the trees.

        • taliesin319 says:

          Granted but when 52 % of a nations surrigates deny God 3 times in a public forum with booing and catcalls their behavior is characterized by hubris, an offense that is always punished and that just punishment falls on the nation. However God is just and we just need to continue to trust in his goodness to those who strive to keep his commandments.

        • Sepsis says:

          Anyone who brings up “God” in a conversation about anything other than religion can’t be taken seriously. Your god has nothing to do with our economy or anything else that’s going wrong. The problem is a lack of respect for people and their hard work. Most of today’s youth has no concept of hard work or personal responsibility. Most have the entitlement mentality. They see everyone around them living off of the government teet and feel like they should get everything for free as well. These lazy parents don’t care enough to teach kids about the value of a dollar, respect and to have a good work ethic. You guys need to wake up from this dream that somehow god will make everything better.

      • Edward Shick says:

        it would have been nice if you would have blocked the border to OHIO ,,We had about a month to vote and they were hauling somolians out of Michigan and although they could not Read or Write English , They had there interpeters !!,Any thing for the Liar ,

        • LiveFreeOrDie says:

          But this is where the RINOs could FIGHT and Do Not- where you must QUESTION whether they are in league with the Democrats. ALL of the VOTER FRAUD was known during “Early Voting” so WHY WASN’T ROMNEY & GOP actively EXPOSING it? Why did he concede so quickly? Why did Mitt go bouncing along to a lunch with Barry?

        • Sinbad says:

          Maybe because Romney and the GOP were commiting as much fraud during the nominating process.

          “where you must QUESTION whether they are in league with the Democrats” They are both in the league of the corporate establishment.

        • flash says:

          I belive that Mitt deliberately lost to gain some kind of profit from Obama, just like Hillary did. Look she got to be the Secretary of the State. Mitt meeting with Obama at the White House and no News Media was allowed to listen in on what was going on and now Mitt is got a Job with Marriott. I knew something was wrong when Mitt ignored Donald Trump and put an Accountant in as the Vice- President. I think he was threatened and I got that impression when his wife who was on that plane (The Challenger)almost burnt up. Where was the Secret Service? Oh they had been there to tell Mitchelle about Mitt wife”s dress,or so I belive, remember the Red one? They where their when {Mother Earth News } planted that tape recording at a private meeting, they where there when Mitt was blocked in, in England and had to walk the walk of shame. The Secret Service boss is the President, so it is no wonder that Ron Paul said, “No Thank-you”, but Mitt was too cheap to hire his own reliable people,the Secret Service had to be there when Fox News listened to the reporters who planned on ambushing Mitt, by asking the same question over and over, but Mitt was unaware of it until it was to late.

      • Remington 870 says:

        The fools are already in Hell…just don’t realize it yet.

      • Fed up! says:


      • I really hate it when you people put all of us here in California in the same basket as the dumbocrates. I am a disabled vet, spent 15 years active duty in the Navy, honorably, and I am a Republican like my father before me! I spent the other half of my life growing up on a horse ranch in New York state so……. Get off the every one in the state of… is a (fill in the blank).

    • dd says:

      Detroit use to be a wonderful place. Now it is a cesspool. The
      corruption started with Coleman Young. Within 30 years, neighborhoods
      that stood for a hundred years were decimated by the gimme crowd. If the
      producers don’t take back the country from the takers, America will
      look like Detroit.

      • ginger says:

        Contrast the pictures of Nagasaki and Detroit..Nagasaki was destroyed by the A-bomb 65 yrs ago….Detroit was destroyed from within…Nagasaki is a beautiful city now….Detroit is still destroyed.

      • flash says:

        It started with the Mayor of Detroit in 1968. He took off and went to Miami, Florida and did not declare Marshal Law, so they all got what they wanted a burnt out ruin. They thought that the taxpayer would have to rebuild them a nice place.

    • Remington 870 says:

      Name one African country where the leader is respectable, loves his people and does a good job managing his country’s economy? And we expect Obama (an African) and his entitlement/welfare supporters to be good stewards for our country? Detroit is a suburb of Nigeria and should be floated across the Atlantic to mother Africa.

      • oldcoyote says:

        Remember Odumba is doing exactly what his puppet masters tell him.

        • Victor Magilke says:

          You are spot on. His puppet masters, AIPAC and his Jewish Bankster friends control his every decision.

      • Anthony says:

        Though it is considered racist to say so, blacks NEVER do well with a black leader. Remember Apartheid? As bad as that was, many times more blacks were killed in the first year of black leadership than were killed in 10 years of white rule. I don’t claim to understand it, but it is true. You want to see blacks exterminated? Put a black man in charge.

        • Logicon says:

          And, they are starving because they killed the white farmers in South Africa.

        • flash says:

          70% of the Black women are single and have at least one child. How can they work and watch their children. That is why there are suppose to be two parents. Maybe we should pay for Abortions and Birth Control, as it is they expect us to pay for their children until the age of 18. It would be cheaper, make it mandatory. No Father, no child left behind. A whole new meaning.

      • Edward Shick says:

        It was real Great when Clinton appointed Susan Rice as ambasador to Sudan at the time Osama Bin laden was making plans for 9/11,, We need that for secy of State,, Just another commie

      • Bobseeks says:

        Look up Uganda. At least Uganda’s leader had the good sense to ask GOD’s forgiveness and blessings. That is a huge improvement over the evil and godless mao-bama. By the way, how many western leaders can you name who love their people, etc.?

      • sheinLV says:

        This country supports all those African nations. It baffles me that the leaders of these countries don’t say, “Hey, America is thriving, it’s people are responsible, intelligent, productive…we can do that too, we have intelligent people, we can we have fertile land to farm and ranch, we can build what America has….but no….not one of them does that, they just take American taxpayers money, pocket it, and let their people continue to live like they’re in the 9th century

    • fiddler says:

      Dude! Your second sentence hits the nail right on the head! Please incluence your Dem friends! We have got to pull together to save ouselves and our kids from the seduction of this entitlement mentality!

    • PPTA says:

      I agree with you totally. I think many who voted for Obama are going to be really disappointed when the taxes hit the working people. Detroit isn’t the only city that is in deep trouble.If the City of Detroit does go bankrupt, any pensions the city has that are not covered by Federal Laws, will be gone. That has already happened in a small Alabama Town. If I remember right, it was a small town East of Mobile. My son shoed me the syory on his lap top. My comment was , what if LA, Detroit, Chicago, Frisco, Seattle, or any other City went broke, and City, Pensions were lost. to money to pay them. I cn imagine he riots.
      Dontjist, I grew up in a Democrat Familly in those years. Strong, very strong Democrats. But they cerainly did not share any of the Democrat philoshies of todays Democrat Party. None. They believed in hard work, help your neighbors and family, went to various churches. kept their word, and believed in a very strong military. They believed in giving a helping hand up to any American having hrd times. But not welfare famlies that went on for genertion after generation. They believed that any person, no matter what race, or religion could migrate to this country. Come legally, obey our laws, speak english, and adapt to our culture. What happened to Demorats? Their paty convention booed and jeered God. If my family I grew up with had been there, they would of bodily thrown those people out the door.

    • Victor Magilke says:

      Amen to that. Let them sink or work and contribute to their own welfare instead of forcing hardworking Americans to support them from the cradle to the grave.

    • Pennys ca. says:

      These people that voted for Obama will have to live with what they have done to our country and pray we can make it out of these next four years.

    • Fred116 says:

      I agree with you and I live more than gun shot distance from Detroit. The city council are the biggest bunch of crooks, next to Kwame and Coleman Young, ever to be elected. It just goes to show everyone that a town with a heavy black population cannot govern themselves. Name any big city like that that is prospering.

  2. David says:

    We did not elect a president, we elected Santa Claus. It stinks

    • don says:

      just what has changed? obama has been this way before he was elected, an i’m glad to hear you elected him.most people don’t think it stinks that why he was elected twice

    • obhfwb says:

      What’s this we stuff, i did not vote for that boy community organizer piece of human waste the first time and dang sure did not vote for that terrorist appeasing scum this time. I’ve never voted for a democrat in my life and I’m retired and pushing 70.

    • Matt says:

      Santa Claus is good – obama is the Bad Santa

    • Patty says:

      Except that this Santa has it all backwards. He punishes the good and rewards the naughty.

    • Remington 870 says:

      He is not my president! Most intelligent conservatives recognized Obama as a socialist and now as a communist. We did not care about his race, but the media and his negro supporters made it a big deal.

      • Edward Shick says:

        That’s why the Black Panthers kept older white voters out of Polls in Philadelpia, like Cleveland no one votes for Romney

    • Alice Ray says:

      Don’t defame Santa Claus!

  3. Bobseeks says:

    Most cities are controlled by democrats and most cities have financial problems caused by overspending by democrats. Now, these irresponsible scum want us to bail them out. I say, the hell with them, let them suffer the consequences of voting for democrats.

    • Edward Shick says:

      Dearborn is controlled by Muslims , Going down hill fast

    • mallen11 says:

      What is so amazing is that they don’t see what they have done or what others like them have done and nothing gets corrected or changed. The blind leading the blind and they both fall into the ditch of garbage and the people suffer even more.

  4. redheart says:

    Hopefully, he can’t do it without Congress. If he does it going around Congress we have a Dictator and the Constitution is dead. I fear for the country.

  5. Patrick Henry says:

    These people DONT believe in working at all……do they???

  6. Jackie says:

    Hey if some black city sends a plea for help that’s right wing news of the day. Now all you good white boys know who lives in that city, don’t ya. And on a bright note, I want to let yiu know Michelle, the first Lady you hate so deeply, has a 69% approval rating. That’s the highest of any First Lady And way above those 52% moochers. Looks like some RiNOs like her also. You guys really are slipping. Now someone please bring up the bogus “she’s disbarred” or make reference to being fat, ugly, dumb, gay, gorilla. I’ve seen that a lot. Oh and you could say this is just a Commie media poll… those ones that showed Obama winning. oh well. Go eat some chicken today to feel better.

    • dontjst says:

      WOW! What an ignorant rant!

    • vwkellogg says:

      Well we all will settle for a big ole slice of watermelon!!!

    • hookemowls says:

      You useful, mindful idiot….you are being played for the fool that you demonstrate! You are throwing your liberties, freedoms and those of your children and grandchildren away with both hands. You are the problem! A new term devoloped in this election” the low information voter”, have you even heard of fast and furious, Benghazi, Sebelius illegal use of donor funds, super storm sandy and the lack of any govt help. Way worse than Katrina! etc. etc etc.? Because you don’t do your homework and believe all the state run media tell you…..Gee, Mr president, if you were a vegetable, what would you be and why?”. that’s considered a tough question!

      The two Communist only want your money and dependency…. What fools you liberals are, and you may want to seek help for your disorder, it’s a recognized malady…February 17, 2008

      Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

      As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery.

      Among Rossiter’s observations:

      Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded. Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.
      A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity — as liberals do. A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population — as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation’s citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state — as liberals do.
      The roots of liberalism — and its associated madness — can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind. When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.
      Basically liberalism is a willful failure to mature beyond adolescence that can have catastrophic consequences for society. With luck, the official diagnosis of this disease by a mental health professional will facilitate the search for a cure.

    • kenhowes says:

      I don’t think that’s a “Commie media poll.” But I do think you’re a Commie idiot. The issue with the city isn’t that it’s 70% black. Any right-winger who thinks it’s because the city is now black-run misses the point, and any left-winger who wants to make this all about racism does, too. The point is that the city is 80% Democrat, and a way of thinking and running the city that began long ago when the city was still majority-white and white-run is bearing its stinking fruit. Thanks, Walter Reuther, etc.. This one is on you.

    • jaycee8138 says:

      Jackie…who in the hell is talking about moochele….did you read the story? Detroit is the subject not her. And tell me, who gives a crap about her rating….

    • ritha says:

      By writing that dribble does not make it the truth… You live in lalalala land sonny. Do you really believe your own fairietales???

    • Amfer Ferg says:

      Go bail out Detroit….ask Michelle for some money.

    • oldcoyote says:

      Don’t spend all your food stamps at the same place.

    • YO VINNIE says:

      69% approval rating? Is that from her 22 assistances that the US taxpayer funds for whatever uneplained reason? The first lady has 22 assistants. 22. She wants 22 assistants, Moochele should be footing the bill out of her own pocketbook. Their salaries total about 1.5 million dollars a year. This why our country is in so much trouble. A $4 million dollar Christmas vacation for just this year alone. A million wasted here, a billion there, stretched throughout the federal government adds up to a lot of money we don’t have to cover the expenses. 54 Christmas trees in the White House!!! Oh yeah….such a “green” and environmental friendly president. What an ^sshole. Moochele said she wasn’t proud of her country until obama became president. Then obama says you didn’t build that!!!!! Vacationing and spending the taxpayer’s money like no others before them while the media and bloodsucking politicians say we are going over a fiscal cliff?????!!!! Where is the leadership? This is the kind of crap from government at all levels that gets cities like Detroit in so much trouble.

  7. Frank629 says:


  8. VirgoVince says:

    Haul out your own garbage, you made it!!

  9. freddefreeloader says:

    Dream on Detroit – de muslim pres is not interester in the low lifes of detroit – get ahold of some arab to sell the city to – i’m sure they could use some cheap labor

  10. WEGESE2215 says:

    Let them die out!!

    • ginger says:

      they won’t die out…like the infiltration of the middle east, they just keep breeding…and having the “system” take care of them,

  11. RAllison says:

    Disqus? Why?

  12. Red_Ruffansore says:

    You fat bloviating pig, if you had not spent your entire life with your snout in the trough, you’d understand the principle of not spending more than you can pay back.

    • Dissenter says:

      You mean, like Bush #43, Bush #41, and Reagan, who ran up $10 trillion in debt?

      • Remington 870 says:

        Get real! Obama has run up more debt than all presidents combined. Your argument is a liberal one at best. Why don’t you contribute some money to Detroit since you accuse Republican presidents for running the debt.

        • Dissenter says:

          You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Reagan tripled the national debt, according to the Ludwig von Mises Institute:

          “The result has been unprecedented government debt. Reagan has tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. Ford and Carter in their combined terms could only double it. It took 31 years to accomplish the first postwar debt tripling, yet Reagan did it in eight.”

          i’d give you a cite, but cites trigger automatic moderation.

        • Doc says:

          where were the Democratic Congresses in all those years?

        • Dissenter says:

          Irrelevant to this point (RR did hold the veto over them). My point was that our friend with the itchy trigger finger nom is clueless, and that Republican administrations have been more reckless (remember when Cheney said that “deficits don’t matter?”) than their Democratic counterparts.

  13. good160 says:

    obama to the rescue after all it’s not obama’s money.

  14. ElizabethMC says:

    “You owe us, BO. We own your black azz”.

    • ritha says:

      No, he owns your azz…. He knows where you live and your address and if you have a bank he knows your acct number. You get a welfare check and food stamps, he owns your now. He even got you to vote for him. Biggest laugh in the country.. You are his… body and soul. Your only hope is to pick your lazy azz up and go to work, and get independent and move out of that dung hole.

  15. Morgain Le Fay says:

    Having once lived in Detroit, I can tell you the problem is and has been for several decades, electing Democrats and people with no understanding of economics to public office. A couple years ago I went back to Detroit and toured our old neighborhood and cried when I saw how our once beautiful home had deteriorated. Let Detroit do what California cities have done — declare bankruptcy. How can the Detroit residents take care of a city when they cannot even take care of their homes. We moved from a Detroit suburb to the city when there was a re-vitalization going, but obviously it did not succeed. RIP Detroit

    • atalkalot says:

      I too grew up in Detroit’s east side. Near 7 mile to be exact. Mayor Corrupt Young was the beginning of the downfall of the city. Gangs we growing like crazy. Young boys incorporated took its foot hold on the youth. I went home in 2006 when my brother died unexpectedly and I was sad to see how awful the city had just decayed. The neighborhood I grew up in was gone. One big parking lot with over grown grass and weeds in its place. The school system was rough back in my day 1980. My first year in Finney high school there was a student that walked in and shot another student. I just left my choir class just seconds ago when the shots rang. I can not understand why folks keep voting in the same corrupt folks. Detroit was a beautiful city and I miss her very much.

      • Tim says:

        I did work at Fisher Body in the Eighties, then it looked like a demilitarized zone. It was so dangerous then, my company got my room 20 miles out of town for safety.

      • The ole Curmudgeon,Jim says:

        Sighhhh, I am appalled!!! at the hatred aimed at Deetroit. Yes, in my view “Hizzoner” started Detroit’s slide into decay. It was in the Summer of 1967 that Detroit began to die. The race riots of that year signaled to many Detroiters that if you were White… you were no longer welcome in large parts of the City and White AND BLACK Detroiters voted with their feet and left the City. Coleman Young was what the Blacks wanted. He was “one of them”Young did his best to promote Blacks if they were qualified or not, Young spent his time and energy bellowing at the business community. until they had had enough of his outlandish racial hatred and abandonded Detroit as quickly as they could. Many very good people that just happened to be Black tried to get Detroit working again. Many gave up in despair others hung around for years finally to just surrender. It is painful to see how the Obama types have raped Detroit for the last several decades. Archer was an honest and good man. Even Archer was unable to get past the unions and the attitudes of entitlement to make the necessary corrections. Bing is a good man and a proven leader. He is facing the same fight. American foreign relations have screwed over Detroit and many other Blue Collar Cities.. Detroit WILL come back. Not in my lifetime I fear but She will be back!!! Detroit is a great City. Detroit is home to some of the best workers, the most decent Human beings you will ever find.. I know because during the riots, I was right there next to the bullets and the fires. I was young n pretty back then. It was DETROITERS that kept me safe! as I drove a truck into the inner City to re supply Detroiters. Detroit then and now deserve our respect, our best wishes and our help. Just as we would hope to receive if things were reversed.Detroi’ts largest problem is that there are NO JOBS because the Auto companies moved out to lower wage Countries. Detroit has always been a down and dirty, Auto town. I love Detroit! I want all of you Detroiters to grab yer A**** and get a more diverse economy. USE the Detroit River USE the waterfront. Diversify and make Detroit a destination City once more. You CAN do it. Bing will do his part. Keep local CONTROL!! Outsiders do NOT know Detroit. Y’all DO Take back your City from the Gangs and the violence that gets more press than it deserves. Get different kinds of work for Detroiters to do. Casino’s? They SUCK They do NOT pay DETROITERS big wages! Detroit needs cruises, Tourism, Manufacturing. Stop being ” A One Horse Town” Michigan needs a strong Detroit and Detroit needs a strong America. This Cracker says…Let’s git ta work folks.
        Your Kindly Ole Kurmudgeon

        last 5 decades

        • LibsAreSick says:

          Drivel………………ain’t nothing “coming back” get a grip on yourself.

        • RubyBlu says:

          You left out a big chunk of Detroit’s history with the mayor before Dave Bing; Kwame Kilpatrick. Care to tell us about his reign in Detroit?

        • atalkalot says:

          I pray that Detroit comes back. I remember the stories my mother telling me about the riots. Tanks rolling down the streets and such. My grandma was working for Cunninghams as a waitress in downtown during that time and the local blacks in the neighborhood would make sure she made it home safe by walking her home. I’m very proud to have grown up in Detroit. It is who I am because of it. We are proud people and not afraid to stand up for what’s right. We call a spade a spade.(just ask my husband who is from the south) Jobs are what’s needed. Unions broke the backs of the manufacturing. She needs to re invent the wheel. Stand up Michigan!! Take your state back. Go find your back bone.

    • ritha says:

      You people of Detroit, you welcomed the Muslims, not you will just have to live with it. Obama will help the Muslims, but not the rest of you whitees. He hates the white race.

    • reecie says:

      NO WAY!